Brad
Rather than focus on some of the serpentine refutations for the existence of God with Jesus as His son, take a look at these common, simpler problems that your beliefs lead to.
My point is not to try and prove that God doesn't exist. My point is to ask you to use your personal common sense and analyze these confusing, self-conflicting assertions. Then, to ask yourself not if they disprove God, but whether they make you want to look further at other models that explain existence?
Lot's of comments recently all stacking up. I'm taking a moment here late at night to address all that I can. Right now I'm completely buried at work and am moving to a new house at the same time. For those interested, this is one project I'm working on that's pretty exciting. This will help independent producers get their work up on TiVo allowing them to access to millions of living rooms around the country.
Now, on to it.
You might find this interview with Francis Collins interesting. Personally, I am saddened by the lameness of "reasoning" for Christianity. Given his pedigree I expected much more than the moral compass argument.
We've uploaded our first podcast episode. It's a bit of a ramble. Two tired guys at the end of their long day catching up and rehashing verbally what has been discussed on the blog. Perhaps we'll add some more structure to the next one.
WARNING: there is some language and content that Christian listeners may find objectionable.
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You can play it now right here:
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Link: Is ‘Do Unto Others’ Written Into Our Genes? - New York Times.
This is timely given the recent turn in our debate.
Brad
Responding to your reader's suggestion that we explain why we are atheist/Christian, that sounds fine. I'm happy to take a different tack but we can't lose sight of our stated purpose: convert the other person. For this exchange to have any value other than a couple of friends chatting, it must have an objective.
I think this question will be best served by a phone call. Here's what I suggest. Let's find a time that works for each of us (through email) and then let's talk about it. I will record the call (I have the equipment) and then will convert it to MP3 and upload it as a podcast.
What do you think?
Jeff, from a completely visceral level, I enjoyed reading that post. It is closer to the level of dialog I was hoping we could have. The reality is we can quote scholars all day long, but not get any closer to knowing what makes the other person tick. Proceeding down the track we were on, I was going to start using atheists to disprove the rationale of your ethic. I knew this would not convince you, but I thought it might be helpful to my Christian readers. While that might have been interesting, and I'm happy to do it if you'd like, I find this level of dialog more helpful. We have written a lot of words but are still far from understanding each other.
Brad,
When it comes to how humans should treat other humans you and I are nearly a match. And even on most of those areas where we might disagree (abortion perhaps) I can see your point and respect it while disagreeing. On nearly all earthly here-and-now accounts, we are balanced.
Are you really so worried about the afterlife that you spend most of your energy counseling others to worry along side you? As you've commented in this blog, you accept that you don't need to be a Christian to be a good person or to be happy, to have morals, to live right. Why then do you care about what you can't possibly know with any certainly, the life after death? Are you really, truly, actually worried that there are entities called souls that your loving God will abandon to an eternity of damnation because they weren't able to find a path through His dark maze of intellectual puzzles during their mortal lives?
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